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22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« on: June 25, 2020, 04:52:20 PM »
I have been trying to remember to keep looking, Armscor has had or was planning several different 22TCM drop-in barrels and/or slides for Glocks. Never saw them for sale until now.

$150 for a drop-in barrel and spring for G19 3rd gen, its on the way.
They advise using the 22TCM9R round (lighter and has a very rounded nose for easier feeding), so got a few boxes to try. The normal 22TCM round makes sizable fireball and very little recoil, let's see how this goes.

https://advancedtactical.com/glock-19-22tcm9r-gen-3-barrel-and-recoil-spring-conversion-kit.html

 

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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2020, 06:04:55 PM »
I wrote about this a while back.


I had a G19 3rd gen with the RIA barrel/spring conversion.


I ended up having to get a cut/lightened slide to make it 100% reliable, but after that it was great.
There is the same nice fireball from the 22tcm9r than the full sized one with an IMO better bullet.
I tested it against LVL3 kevlar and it hits HARD and DEEP.
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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2020, 06:26:20 PM »
Thanks for that!
I have one G19 3rd gen and it’s all factory with probably 10,000+ rounds on it. Had it a long time. If I need to modify slide, I’ll just get a spare to mangle.

Edit: Holy shite eBay has crazy-ass G19 slides. I need a gold vented one.
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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2020, 10:00:55 PM »
Is Armscor the only ammo manufacturer?  How is the pricing on the ammo?
 

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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2020, 11:00:56 PM »
Is Armscor the only ammo manufacturer?  How is the pricing on the ammo?


Yeah they are. Pricing is not too bad considering it is Self defense ammo. Usually around $25 per 50rounds.
Comparable to 9mm FMJ, yes it's more expensive.

Here it is out of my g19 - 22tcm9r at 10feet into lvl3 kevlar.
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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2020, 08:34:03 AM »
Wow, thanks for the target pics!
I have a slo-mo video around somewhere....

Having bought loads of 22TCM previously, I can say that Armscor manufacturers in large lots. It'll be on the market, then gone for a while.

High velocity with very little recoil.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/07/27/modern-personal-defense-weapon-calibers-013-22-tcm-22-tcm-9r/

I've always liked the round, but those bottleneck pistol cases are very touchy and FTF was common. This was probably moreso on the crappy RIA 1911 platform and I'm hoping for more reliability using the snubbed-nose round of the 22TCM9R.

 

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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2020, 03:39:21 PM »
22TCM9R barrel and spring showed up today for the G19 G3.
Everything fits fine, a few dry fire and cycling observations:

1) As I take-up the trigger, the slide comes back just slightly. Trigger hits, slide goes forward into place.
2) Smooth cycling, but the spring is so light I can see where the first issue will be (FTF from not enough kinetic energy in the mass of the slide). I bet a real firm grip to keep all the energy going to moving the slide as opposed to my wrist will help.
3) I checked a 22TCM round and it chambers just the same. The 22TCM9R definitely feeds out of the mag better being so snubby, but I have a ton of 22TCM to blow through.
4) Barrel feed ramp is real nice, better than most Rock Island stuff I see.

I'll get to the range after work one day this week.
Looking forward to this, I miss the 22TCM round in a handgun.
 

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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2020, 11:21:49 PM »
22TCM9R barrel and spring showed up today for the G19 G3.
Everything fits fine, a few dry fire and cycling observations:

1) As I take-up the trigger, the slide comes back just slightly. Trigger hits, slide goes forward into place.
2) Smooth cycling, but the spring is so light I can see where the first issue will be (FTF from not enough kinetic energy in the mass of the slide). I bet a real firm grip to keep all the energy going to moving the slide as opposed to my wrist will help.
3) I checked a 22TCM round and it chambers just the same. The 22TCM9R definitely feeds out of the mag better being so snubby, but I have a ton of 22TCM to blow through.
4) Barrel feed ramp is real nice, better than most Rock Island stuff I see.

I'll get to the range after work one day this week.
Looking forward to this, I miss the 22TCM round in a handgun.


The reason for the slide moving with the trigger slightly is the light recoil spring. I got that too. It did not affect reliability at all though on mine after I put the new lighter slide on it. With the stock slide it failed to go fully into battery every few rounds.


The original 22tcm will not fit into a Glock 9mm mag due to the length being too long.


It's a fire breather.  8)
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Re: 22TCM9R conversion for G19 (3rd gen)
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2020, 04:26:45 PM »
Just ran 200 rounds 22TCM9R through the G19.
Had about 5% FTF or FTE problems.
Factory Glock 9mm mags worked fine.

No jams that could not be cleared very easily, and just like Mr. Nuke noted, the lightness of the spring mixed with the factory weight of the slide needs to be balanced. I almost feel like the spring could be a touch lighter and maybe some contact surface on the barrel get polished through use.

Notably, the new boxes of 22TCM9R I received are polished aluminum casing like Hormandy Critical Defense. Nice and slippery, but who knows for reloading. I used so save my 22TCM brass cases for a buddy who reloaded them.

Anyways, lovely to shoot. Big ass fireball even in July daylight. THUD. Recoil is like a 22 magnum, no barrel flip. For $150, this is a super fun  drop-in mod for Glocks.

I don’t ever think this will get dialed-in  to where it’s relatable enough for carry, but that report is so powerful, that alone would send people running.
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