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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Results
« Reply #1020 on: February 18, 2021, 06:22:14 PM »
Alex Jones is a poser.  If you’re going to go conspiracy, you should go whole hog. Coast to Coast AM radio is where it is at. You’ve got boxcars and prison camps, aliens, lizard people, life on Mars, UFO design, ghosts, viral pathology and real live crazy people phoning it in!

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Results
« Reply #1021 on: February 19, 2021, 05:02:00 PM »
Potentially, a government is the most dangerous threat to man's rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Results
« Reply #1022 on: February 22, 2021, 08:33:57 AM »
After all the media demonizing Parlor for the place people coordinated for the DC Jan 6th riot, turns out (surprise) it was Facebook and not Parlor according to court docs.

Sheryl Sandberg Downplayed Facebook’s Role In The Capitol Hill Siege—Justice Department Files Tell A Very Different Story
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/02/07/sheryl-sandberg-downplayed-facebooks-role-in-the-capitol-hill-siege-justice-department-files-tell-a-very-different-story/?sh=4c1083b110b3

Just after the Capitol Hill riots on January 6, Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook chief operating officer admitted the company’s ability to enforce its own rules was “never perfect.” About the shocking events of the day, she added: “I think these events were largely organized on platforms that don't have our abilities to stop hate and don't have our standards and don't have our transparency,” said Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook chief operating officer, shortly after the Capitol Hill riots on January 6.

Sandberg was later criticized for downplaying her employer’s role as a platform for the organizers of the siege. But Facebook was far and away the most cited social media site in charging documents the Justice Department  filed against members of the Capitol Hill mob, providing further evidence that Sandberg was, perhaps, mistaken in her claim. Facebook, however, claims that the documents show the social media company has been especially forthcoming in assisting law enforcement in investigating users who breached the Capitol.

Forbes reviewed data from the Program on Extremism at the George Washington University, which has collated a list of more than 200 charging documents filed in relation to the siege. In total, the charging documents refer to 223 individuals in the Capitol Hill riot investigation. Of those documents, 73 reference Facebook. That’s far more references than other social networks. YouTube was the second most-referenced on 24. Instagram, a Facebook-owned company, was next on 20. Parler, the app that pledged protection for free speech rights and garnered a large far-right userbase, was mentioned in just eight.

The references are a mix of public posts and private messages sent on each platform, discussing  plans to go to the Stop the Steal march, some containing threats of violence, as well as images, videos and livestreams from the breach of the Capitol building.

Livestreaming crime on Facebook
Whilst the data doesn’t show definitively what app was the most popular amongst rioters, it does strongly indicate Facebook was rioters’ the preferred platform. Previously, Forbes had reported on cases where Facebook users had publicly posted their intention to attend the riots. One included the image of a bullet with the caption, “By Bullet or Ballot, Restoration of the Republic is Coming.” The man who posted the image was later arrested after posting images of himself at the Capitol on January 6, according to investigators. In other cases, the FBI found Facebook users had livestreamed their attack on the building. As the Washington Post previously reported, the #StopTheSteal hashtag was seen across Facebook in the days around January 6, with 128,000 users talking about it, according to data provided by Eric Feinberg, a vice president with the Coalition for a Safer Web.

In various cases, the accused used a mix of social media sites to promote their involvement in the riot. For instance, in charges filed on January 27, an alleged member of the Oath Keepers militia, Thomas Caldwell, was found to have posted on Facebook from the riot, noting in one post: “We are surging forward. Doors breached.” Meanwhile, a fellow Oath Keeper, Jessica Watkins, wrote on Parler: “Me before forcing entry into the Capitol Building. #stopthesteal2 #stormthecapitol #oathkeepers #ohiomilitia.” (Caldwell, a Navy veteran, told a court in January that “every single charge is false,” according to Reuters. Watkins told a judge she understood the charges against her, but “I don’t understand how I got them”.)

A Facebook spokesperson told Forbes the company was providing data to law enforcement on those present at the riot and was removing accounts of those who were involved in the storming of the Capitol. The spokesperson also noted that prior to the mob attack, as of November 30, Facebook had removed about 3,200 Pages, 18,800 groups, 100 events, 23,300 Facebook profiles and 7,400 Instagram accounts for violating its policy against militarized social movements. The policy was launched in August.

“We are continuing our ongoing, proactive outreach to law enforcement and have worked to quickly provide responses to valid legal requests. We are removing content, disabling accounts and working with law enforcement to protect against direct threats to public safety."

As Forbes reported in January, Facebook has been preserving rioters’ data, including their private messages, so that it can be handed to law enforcement when they make a legal request. Facebook isn’t alone in helping law enforcement in gathering information on suspects. Other platforms and technology companies, from Apple and Google to Parler, have been furnishing the feds with data on users who were at the riots.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Results
« Reply #1023 on: February 22, 2021, 10:16:14 AM »
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1363861459193786374

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JUST IN - U.S. Supreme Court refuses to review #Pennsylvania election cases. No standing before an election, moot after. Justices Alito, Gorsuch, and Thomas dissent from the denial.

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Since it only takes 4 justices to hear a case, these cases were only one vote away from getting a full hearing at the SCOTUS.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Results
« Reply #1024 on: February 22, 2021, 10:28:35 AM »
Supreme Court tosses Pennsylvania election challenges in blow to Trump supporters
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/supreme-court-tosses-pennsylvania-election-challenges-trump

The Supreme Court on Monday threw out several of the remaining election challenges raised after former President Donald Trump's loss to President Biden.

The cases, filed in Pennsylvania and disputing the state's greater allowances for mail-in ballots amid the pandemic, were rejected by the court in an unsigned order. The court earlier this year declined to consider election-related litigation until after Biden was inaugurated, signaling that it would not take up the cases.

Justice Clarence Thomas dissented from the decision, writing that although too few ballots were affected by the new rules for it to make a difference, that may not always be the case.

"These cases provide us with an ideal opportunity to address just what authority nonlegislative officials have to set election rules, and to do so well before the next election cycle," Thomas wrote. "The refusal to do so is inexplicable."

Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch, in a separate dissent, also wrote that the court could provide clarity on the question by taking up the cases.

"They present an important and recurring constitutional question: whether the Elections or Electors Clauses of the United States Constitution are violated when a state court holds that a state constitutional provision overrides a state statute governing the manner in which a federal election is to be conducted," Alito wrote. "That question has divided the lower courts, and our review at this time would be greatly beneficial."
Potentially, a government is the most dangerous threat to man's rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.
- Ayn Rand
 

 


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